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Arson was pre-planned, says Sansern

Published: 20/05/2010 at 12:47 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

The arson around the capital and in other provinces after the surrender of some red-shirt leaders on Wednesday had been planned ahead, Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said on Thursday.

Some of the red-shirt leaders had urged the protesters to burn down buildings and loot, he said.

“In Bangkok, there have been attempts to set fires at 39 places including government offices, private properties, television stations,” Col Sansern said.

Efforts toput out the fires were being hampered by gunmen, who were attempting to attack the firemen, he said.

Col Sansern then showed a video clip showing red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua telling protesters, “Burn them, brothers and sisters. I will be the only one taking responsibility.”

Col Sansern also said that there were attempts to attack protesters taking refuge at Wat Pathumwanaram, where more than 5,000 red-shirts were staying on Wednesday.

Six bodies were found inside Thai Red Cross Society tent inside the temple grounds, he said.

According to reports, the victims were killed by war weapons as they tried to leave the temple for Pathumwan intersection, where the had CRES prepared buses for protesters to go home, Col Sansern said.

It was believed they were killed between 5pm and 6pm on Wednesday. Security personnel and police were still unable to enter the area at the time, he said.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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Niet zo een rustig begin van de dag hier. Deze morgen opnieuw geweervuur nebij de tempel in de protestzone en de avondklok 3 dagen verlengt van 21:00 tot 05:00. Zie eerdere topic.
De weinige hardcors en relschoppers zitten nog overal in Bkk.
MVG Frank

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Korkaew calls on reds to stop rioting

Published: 20/05/2010 at 02:18 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

Korkaew Pikulthong, co-leader of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) who surrendered to police this afternoon, has issued a statement calling on red-shirts nationwide to stop instigating unrest.

In his statement Mr Korkaew asked;

  1. All red-shirts across the country to stop rioting;
  2. The blue-shirts to stop subrogate to incite unrest to put the blame on red-shirts;
  3. The opportunists stop provoking violence;
  4. The troops to stop killing people and return to barracks; and
  5. All parties to pull out the fuel from the fire burning up the country and to finally extinguish the flame.

He apologised to those who had suffered as a result of from the red-shirt rally.

“I cannot take the responsibility for the financial damage, but I am willing to take the responsibility for the legal part,” he said in the statement.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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Volgens mij begrijpt u het verkeerd. Ik reageer op de uitspraak van iemand anders: ‘sprakeloos :mad:’. Wat ik dus met mijn vraag afvraag is of ex-president Thaksin ook ‘sprakeloos’ is, omdat hij immers de redshirts betaald en aanzet tot de demonstraties/rellen, is het immers zijn gedachtegang niet om het land instabiliteit te brengen zodat hij bij verkiezingen de macht kan grijpen? (tenminste dat is wat ik opmaak uit het nieuws/forums op internet, ik kan het echter ook fout hebben).

Mijn uitspraak heeft helemaal niets met mijn vakantie te maken :vak01:

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Lieve mensen van dit forum,

Het is logisch dat iedereen vol met emotie zit door deze hele toestand maar laat iedereen nou proberen elkaar hier geen verwijten te maken.
Soms komt iets wat getypt is heel anders over dan dat het wordt bedoeld.
Discussieren moet kunnen maar laten we wel iedereen in zijn waarde laten. Als we hier nu ook al gaan ruzien word ik nog verdrietiger.

Liefs voor iedereen die er allemaal zo bij betrokken is.

Mik

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Helemaal mee eens Mik ! Onrust in Thailand is al erg genoeg, liever geen onrust op het Thailand-forum :wink:

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Rioters surround police at Victory Monument

Published: 20/05/2010 at 03:24 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

More than 100 anti-government protesters surrounded a team of a policemen deployed to oversee security at the Victory Monument on Thursday afternoon, reports said.

The demonstrators said they were concerned of their safety by claiming that two of the police officers were armed.

They also booed and shouted rudely at the police, and said they would remain at the Victory Monument regardless of the government’s three-day curfew from 9pm to 6am.

At Bon Kai area on Rama IV road, troops had removed wires and roadblocks set up by the protesters. Officials had also repaired electricity transformers in the area.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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**HARDLEERS !

**Red Shirts Gather at Radio Station to Discuss Next Move

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Red shirts asked to convene outside the Laem Chabang Peoples Radio station after the dispersion of the rally where many supporters of the red shirts were killed and injured.

			Chon Buri, 19th May 2010 [PDN] Mrs. Nitchanan Wangkhahat (a Pheu  Thai Party member and 88.75 FM Laem Chabang People Radio’s chief) and  UDD leaders announced to the red members from Sattahip, Pattaya, Laem  Chabang, and nearby areas to gather at the radio station before planning  any moves after the dispersion of the operation at Ratprasong where  many red shirts were killed and injured.

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Subsequently Mrs. Nitchanan Wangkhahat brought 400 red members to block the entrance of the oil refinery, Thai oil Company by having a 6 wheel truck with amplifier and the leader to speak against the government in their operation at Ratprasong in Bangkok. The rally’s aim was to express the red shirt’s opinion against the violence occurring by orders of the government over the reds’ people coming out for democracy.
Police Colonel Theeraphon Jindaluang (Chon Buri Police Deputy Superintendent) revealed that the situation at the Thai oil refinery was to prepare the task force of 300 riot suppression police and 100 soldiers from Mor Thor Bor 14 Army, due to two more oil fineries being located nearby.

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Speeches were made from the makeshift stage at the rear of the truck, with Buddhist monks participating. The speeches were an attacked on the Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, Deputy PM Suthep Thaugsuban, and General Anuphong Phaojinda (the Army Commander in Chief) over the order to kill, resulting in high numbers of deaths and injuries. The UDD required the officers involved to tender their resignation and dissolve parliament, whilst at the same time, Police Officers, the Thai Oil representative and Chon Buri Governor had tried talking to the reds asking them to move away from the scene to prevent an incident occurring inside the oil refinery and the tank farm.

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The reds did not comply with the officer’s request to move from the oil refinery insisting that they were gathered only for the rally and would not use any violence. The leader of the reds ordered staff members to transport tyres on the two trucks that were parked nearby when news that the Sriracha Technology School, Bunjitwitthaya School, Wat Manorom School and Wat Mai Nern Phayom had decided to close. The 2,000 students were told to go straight home though some were met by parents and guardians.

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Center One Shopping Mall, the day after…

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Dave,

Dat te bedenken dat je enige weken geleden nog de dinner cruise maakte en veelal in deze gebieden rondliep.

Het moet een niet te bevatten indruk maken

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Dat is idd iets dat niet te bevatten is. Paar weken terug liep ik er nog gewoon over straat en die omgeving is nu veranderd in een slagveld. Heel, heel vreemd…
Ik zie de foto’s en video’s allemaal wel, maar het blijft toch heel erg onwerkelijk…

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Giant bang at Big C Ayutthaya

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A giant fire cracker exploded at a rest room of Big C supermarket in Ayutthaya’s Bang Pa-in district on Thursday before noon, police said.
The explosion damaged the rest room, and caused panic among sellers around the area. There were no reports of injury.
Ayutthaya governor Witthaya Piewpong said he has ordered police to step up security in the province after authorities received reports that three buildings there are targetted by rioters.
Security has been tightened around shopping malls, tourist attractions and banks in the province, he said.bron: http://www.bangkokpost.com

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Tja de Telegraaf weer,

**Vakantie met uitgaansverbod **

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Dat is deze week mijn vraag aan u.
Voordat ik eind vorige eeuw Bangkok als nieuwe standplaats kreeg, was ik ook jarenlang Midden-Oosten correspondent van deze krant in Cairo.
Ik herinner mij dat er kort na elkaar enkele venijnige terreurbommen afgingen op het Tahrir-plein, midden in deze stoffige miljoenenstad, vlakbij het Egyptisch museum.
Vakantiegangers in Nederland redeneerden: “Die piramides staan er volgend jaar ook nog wel. Dan gaan we dit jaar maar naar Turkije!”
Goed gezien natuurlijk, waarom zou je als toerist de ellende gaan opzoeken?
Maar kort daarna gingen ook bommen af in Turkije, in Istanboel en Antalya vlogen hele hotels de lucht in. Tegen die tijd waren rond de piramides van Gizeh de drommen toeristen allang weer terug. Leeg was het piramideterrein eigenlijk nooit. Toet Ankh Amon was een van de eerste toeristen, als jonge prins kwam hij per strijdwagen uit Thebe om de indrukwekkende bouwsels te bekijken. Voor hem was Cheops net zo oud als voor ons Karel de Grote. Ik meld dit terloops om toerisme even in historisch perspectief te zetten.
Nog is Bangkok dus niet verloren en eerdaags dansen we weer sirtaki met de Grieken. Hou wel uw eurobankpas in de gaten!
Niets lijkt korter dan het korte-termijngeheugen van toeristen. De tsunami was nauwelijks weggeëbd, of ze zaten zich alweer in te smeren op de Thaise droomstranden.
Annuleert u nog voor Griekenland of Thailand? Of bent u daar niet voor verzekerd en gaat de reis daarom gewoon door?
Bezahlt ist es, herunter soll es! Het inkomen van zestig procent van de Thaise beroepsbevolking hangt volledig af van het toerisme.
Laten we die mensen zitten wegens een conflict dat kennelijk even onontkoombaar is voor hun sociale ontwikkeling als 1968 voor Europa? Bleef u toen ook weg uit Parijs?
Laten we de Grieken eenzaam op hun olympische schuldenberg zitten? Wel óf niet op vakantie naar het mysterieuze koninkrijk van de eeuwige glimlach, compleet met uitgaansverbod?
Laat het mij maar weten op [EMAIL=“checkpoint@telegraaf.nl”]checkpoint@telegraaf.nl

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Is het gebied waar het swimming with the dolphins is veilig ?

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Senator: Conflict not really ended

Published: 20/05/2010 at 04:29 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

Although the anti-government rally was over and the red-shirt leaders had surrendered to police, the political conflict would not really be resolved if the government fails to prove to the public it has no double-standard, Nonthaburi Senator Direk Thuengfang said on Thursday.

Mr Direk, the former chairman of the Parliamentary Committe on National Reconciliation, Political Reform and Constitutional Amendment, said the government would be able to keep the situation under control only for a short period.

“If the call for justice is not heeded, political chaos will erupt in all regions over the long term.

"I had warned the government that using force against red-shirt protesters would not end the political stand off,” he said.

The senator suggested the government re-analyse the political problem and come up with a long-term solution.

“The government must have a long-term vision for settling the pressing problems of the country, not a short-term response," he said.

Mr Direk warned that the leaders of the United front of Democracy against Dictatorship who had surrendered had clearly stated that they would continue the political fight.

To really end the political conflict, the government must ensure that a fair and just judicial process hears the charges against the red-shirts, he said.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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Govt to move ahead with road map

Published: 20/05/2010 at 04:56 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

The government will move ahead with the national reconciliation plan proposed by the prime minister, even if the prolonged anti-government rally was over, secretary general to the prime minister Korbsak Sabhavasu said.

“It would take about four months to complete the planned reconciliation road map. After the goals of the road map are achieved, fresh general election will be held”, Mr Korbsak said.

He said the suitable election day will be decided by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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Explosives, ammunition found at rally site

Published: 20/05/2010 at 04:58 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

Explosives, firebombs and several M16 assault rifles and ammunition have been found at the Ratchaprasong rally site when authorities searched the area, the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES) announced on national broadcast on Thursday afternoon.

The finding came after police and forensic officials went there to look for evidence that could like to sabotages by the gunmen dressed in black.

Director of the National Institute of Forensic Science Khunying Porntip Rojanasunant said the inspection of Wat Pathumwanaram scene where six bodies were discovered showed evidence that they were shot at distance.

It is still unknown who fired the deadly shots, she said.

Khunying Porntip said further investigation would be made to find those responsible.

*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *

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Nog enkele indringende foto’s van deze onwerkelijke situatie:

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Even iets ontspannends, ik weet het off topic, vergeef me,…

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AMSTERDAM - Een 4-jarig jochie is met zijn indrukwekkende drumtalent een nieuwe sensatie op videosite YouTube.

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De kleine Howard Wong begon met drummen toen hij slechts 18 maanden oud  was.  Hoewel het drummertje destijds het liefste kinderliedjes speelde, drumde  hij  op 3-jarige leeftijd al in de band van zijn vader en is hij hard op weg  een  grote naam te worden in de muziekwereld.

[nomedia=“Facebook Inbox - 明版的Howard drum show!!! [HQ].mp4 - YouTube”]YouTube- Facebook Inbox - 明版的Howard drum show!!! [HQ].mp4[/nomedia] van de optredens, die waarschijnlijk zijn opgenomen in Maleisië, zijn razend populair op internet. Miljoenen mensen zagen de kleine drummer al in actie.
“Ik kan amper geloven dat dit jongetje zo goed is. Iedere slag is perfect getimed”, schrijft een fan op YouTube. “Rock on, kleine jongen”, reageert een

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Overgebleven aanhangers van de roodhemden verlaten op donderdag de tempel bij de rallysite in het centrum van Bangkok.

Triest om te zien dat er dus ook nog steeds kinderen in de rallysite waren. Zo jong en nu al zoveel ellende van dichtbij gezien :frowning: