Klopt. Thaksin doneert idd geld. Zie ook weer een eerder artikel uit de BKK Post van vandaag dat ik hier vanochtend geplaatst heb. Wat er allemaal met dat geld gebeurt weet ik niet. Misschien kopen ze daar wel eten en drinken voor en betalen ze daar de ‘hooggeplaatste’ redshirts van…
heb dat stuk ook gelezen, ook leuk om te zien dat mr t in de luis vuttoin shop aan het shoppen waqs in parijs, zijn toch tasjes van een gem jaar salaris voor de gem red shirt.
lol2 luis vuttion !!! Dat is vast de thaise imitatie !!! lol2lol2
Tuurlijk is het gewoon Thaise namaak hahaha ! Maar dat weet Thaksin niet ! Die denkt dat ie een echte originele LV koopt 
Amber, ik snap wel wat je bedoeld te zeggen. Media spelen inderdaad vaak een kwalijke rol. Er worden de “mooiste” bloedigste plaatjes vertoond. Dat scoort natuurlijk. Ook loopt de (geschreven) berichtgeving natuurlijk altijd zo’n 14 uur achter. Tussen het moment dat de krant geschreven wordt en het moment dat hij op de mat valt, is er (mede gelet op het tijdverschil) al weer veel gebeurd.
Maar, wat jij zegt (zie je citaat) klopt natuurlijk niet. Het in een kwaad daglicht stellen is niet de schuld van vooral mensen die er nog nooit zijn geweest of de schuld van vooral de media, het is in dit geval de schuld van de roodhemden en de regering die deze impasse samen niet kunnen oplossen. Deze mensen brengen Thailand in diskrediet en hopelijk niet naar de rand van de afgrond > te veel opstandjes de laatste jaren doet geen goed aan potentiële toekomstige 1e keer reizigers.
Paul
Ik las ergens dat het niet op prijs gesteld wordt dat er links geplaatst worden. Maar deze onderstaande link is toch interessant om te volgen (excuses dus dat ik hem toch plaats).
Thaivisa forum, de hele dag door het laatste nieuws (wel steeds de pagina verversen), het zijn officiele berichten en berichten van mensen in de omgeving van de kampementen, inclusies tweets, foto’s etc. En nee, het volgen komt niet voort uit sensatie, maar uit het feit dat ik zelf over enkele weken naar (o.a.) Bkk af ga reizen met mijn gezin. En dus volg ik nu graag de ontwikkelingen op de voet.
Dit is de link voor ‘vandaag’ woensdag 19 mei:
Vervolg op het onderzoek naar de financiën:
**RED SHIRTS’ FINANCING
Fresh list of 43 firms, individual issued by CRES
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By The Nation
Published on May 19, 2010
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The Centre for Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) has issued a second list of 43 companies and individuals allegedly involved in the financing of the red shirts, and has barred them with immediate effect from conducting any financial transactions.
Of these, six are corporate entities: World Supply, BBD Development, BDD Property, SC Asset, Ruaychai International Group and Ruaychai Merchandise.
The remaining 37 are Vicharn Minchainant, Sudarat Keyuraphan, Pongthep Thepkanchana, Pimpa Chanprasong, Charoen Chankomol, Reungdej Suphanphai, Pairoj Isaraseriphong, Jirasak Tejathaweekul, Phanlert Baiyoke, Somwang Asarasri, Chutharat Methasavet, Chinicha Wongsawat, Arunee Chamnarnya, Natthawut Saikua, Veera Musigaphong, Arisman Phongruangrong, Viphuthalaeng Patanabhumithai, Yosvaris Chuklom, Darunee Kritboonyalai, Thanakrit Cha-emnoi, Chaichana Kertdi, Aree Krainara, Worawut Vichaidith, Lt-General Prin Suwannathat, Pol General Salang Bunnag, General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, Yaowarat Shinawatra, Jatuporn Promphan, Jakrapob Penkair, Sutham Saengprathum, Prateep Ungsongtham Hata, Paijit Thamrojvinit (Por Pratunum), Phasin Hoklang, Charnchai Ruayrungrueng, Sukarnya Prachuabmoh, Suchinda Cherdchai and Surawut Cherdchai.
General Anupong Paochinda, the Army chief, signed the order to halt the financial transactions and freeze the assets of these 43 companies and individuals, whose financial background will be subject to a probe covering the period since September 1 last year.
In addition, the Commerce Ministry yesterday submitted to the CRES the shareholding structure and financial status of 13 companies allegedly involved in the financing of “acts of terrorism” related to the red-shirts’ rally in Bangkok.
Alongkorn Ponlaboot, deputy commerce minister, said he had submitted the documents of the 13 companies to the CRES so that the authorities could further probe the financial trails to see whether they have played any role in financing the violence.
The companies are Thunnawatakarm Co (Financial Innovation), New Oak. BP Property, Pramaisuree Property, PT Property, SCK Estate, SC Office Park, SC Office Plaza, OAI Marketing, OAI Consultant and Management, OAI Management, OAI Leasing and OAI Education.
They have been barred from doing business or involvement in any financial transactions.
On Sunday, the CRES moved to weaken the sponsors and masterminds of the red-shirt rally by ordering a freeze, with immediate effect, of the bank accounts, assets and all financial transactions of 13 companies and 109 individuals.
They are alleged to be linked to acts of terror in Bangkok over the past two months.
The key suspects are fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, former PM Somchai Wongsawat, Thaksin’s former wife Pojaman na Pombejra, his children, banned politicians such as Sudarat Keyuraphan and Pongthep Thepkanchana, and businessmen like Somgkhram Kitlertpairoj.
Top ex-officers suspected of links to terrorism include former deputy national police chief General Salang Bunnag and former 1st Infantry Division commander Lt-General Prin Suwannathat.
Alongkorn said the 13 companies had combined capital of more than Bt25 billion, and that many of them were related to one another.
“Many of companies are related by their shared locations. There are six companies that are located in the same premises. And there are two companies sharing the same address,” he said. “Moreover, Chanont Suvasin has been found to be a director of 12 companies.”
Chanont is also among the 109 individuals whose assets and bank accounts are frozen by order of the special law under the Internal Security Act.
“At this point, we don’t know whether these companies have been involved in providing financing to the rally,” said the minister. “The Commercial Business Department is now probing their business activities and financial transactions. If there are grounds for believing so, the Centre for Resolution of the Emergency Situation would invite their shareholders for further interrogation.”
Next week, the Commerce Ministry will invite operators in the jewellery, real estate, hotels and tourism, finance, food and beverages and consultancy sectors to a joint meeting to determine the impact of the red-shirt rally on their businesses.
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– The Nation 2010-05-19
**Ik kan me hier wel in vinden :Thaksin spel
**The defiant crowd presented another snag after Thaksin allegedly made demands that could not be met by the government. According to a government source, Thaksin, through his representatives, appeared uninterested in an early end to the red shirts’ protests and riots as long as he did not get what he wanted.
“As long as Thaksin does not get what he wants, he won’t let this end so easily,” said the source. “His latest condition is that he wants not only amnesty in the different cases against him, but also have his passports returned. Those conditions cannot be met by the government.”
Violence continued but with decreased intensity in Bangkok, with Bon Kai and Rajprarop remaining the most sensitive areas, where sporadic gunshots and explosions were still heard. The fatality toll since last Friday was 37, excluding Maj-General Khattiya Sawasdipol. Nearly 300 people are injured.
Thaksin’s influence in the ongoing secret talks between the government and the red shirts was confirmed by another source from the opposition Pheu Thai Party.
The source, who is close to the ex-premier, said that certain Pheu Thai leaders and Thaksin’s close relatives were also involved in the secret talks. In addition to other conditions, such as the date for a new election, Thaksin also made his personal demands.
“Up till now, there have been no positive responses to the demands. These include a return of part of assets from the asset-seizure case and a return of Thaksin’s passports,” said the Pheu Thai source.
The source also said that Thaksin has a “trump card” in hand that he would use if the talks fail.
“The real strategists [Thaksin’s allies from the military] will play an underground game by staging sabotage acts in different areas throughout the city and other major provinces in order to pressure the government to accept Thaksin’s conditions,” the source said.
Meanwhile, the Cabinet yesterday declared the three remaining work days of the week as public holidays in Bangkok to facilitate the operations to restore peace in the city.
During yesterday’s Cabinet meeting at the 11th Infantry Regiment, the head strategist of the operation, deputy Army chief of staff Lt-General Dawpong Rattanasuban, explained to the ministers about the military-led operation. He was assigned by Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, who heads the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation.
Na de coup door het leger in 2006 is de rust nog niet teruggekeerd.
De media is een zeer sterke factor hoe men/buitenstaander er tegen aan gaat kijken, dat is in deze kwestie zo of als welk ander willekeurig gebeuren, het is maar net wat/hoe ze willen berichten of door wie ze gevoed worden, dus de media speelt wel degelijk mee in beeldvorming.
Als je kijkt door de bril van toerisme brengt dit het land onzettend veel schade toe, persoonlijk vind ik het erg dat een bevolking van een land op dit moment zoveel haat gevoelens tussen elkaar hebben als dit niet goed wordt opgelost.
Hier nog wat opfrisser’s van het geheugen alleen dan de gele kant belicht, die konden er toen ook wat van in 2008.
- YouTube Hundreds of anti-government protestors at the Thai airport[/nomedia]
- YouTube Thai Protesters Attack Police Near Airport[/nomedia]
- YouTube Raw Video: Tear Gas Fired at Thai Protestors[/nomedia]
- YouTube Thai Protesters Take to Streets, Block Airport[/nomedia]
Zullen deze andere kleur t-shirt’s er ook geheel kosteloos en op eigen houtje voorzien zijn van eten en ga zo maar door op het vliegveld gezeten te hebben voor dagen, of in de straten van Bangkok onrust hebben lopen stoken.
zo, terug uit bangkok! Totaal 5 dagen in BKK geweest…, heb de blokkade (een veel leger en politie) een keer gezien…maar als toerist had ik er verder helemaal geen last van! Ben nog ff naar de patpong night market geweest…en daar waren wij twee letterlijk 2 van de totaal aanwezig 10 toeristen…terwijl je er normaal over de koppen kunt lopen! De thaise ondernemers hebben er dus wel ernorm veel last van! Uietaard hebben we niet opzettelijk het district opgezocht waar het kampement is. Wel een paar keer naar Khaosan road geweest en heel wat af getuktukt door de stad…en nergens tegen problemen of onveiligheden aangelopen.
Een negatief reisadvies vind ik echt nergens op slaan en schaadt alleen de Thai! Of je moet zo dom zijn om in Bangkok een enkeltje tuktuk naar het zakendistrict te nemen…
bangkok was top, ook de sfeer, de mensen…nog altijd hetzelfde als altijd! Snel weer terug!
Sja die oorlogssituatie is wel maar in een fractie van een enorme stad! Ik vind dat het in de media allemaal opgeblazen wordt… Als ze zeggen dat ‘de straten van bangkok’ worden bezet door de roodhemden, dan moeten ze ook aangeven hoeveel straten er zijn in bangkok en hoeveel er bezet worden… Kan me hier redelijk aan ergeren, het schaadt de gewone Thai.
Zou dit betekenen dat het gaat beginnen? Breakingnews op Bangkokpost.
bron: www.bangkokpost.com
**Forces gather near Ratchaprasong**
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Hundreds of police and army, backed by armored vehicles, are converging on the perimeter of an anti-government protest camp in Bangkok, reporters saw early on Wednesday.
Twelve armoured personnel carriers (APCs) with machine guns mounted on top arrived in the Silom business district, where several trucks dropped off troops wearing balaclavas and carrying weapons and riot shields.
Thailand’s army spokesman declined to comment on whether a crackdown was imminent on the protesters, who are defying a Monday deadline to disperse after occupying Bangkok’s main retail district for six weeks.
“I will not answer any questions,” spokesman Col Sunsern Kaewkumnerd said.
Hundreds of armed police were forming lines in Sukhumvit Road, a main thoroughfare leading into the protest zone, backed up by some 20 police vans on the roadside.
Leaders of the red shirts warned late Tuesday that they were concerned a crackdown would be launched at dawn, after the government ruled out negotiations until they abandoned their heavily fortified rally base.
Security forces had battled with protesters since Thursday as they attempted to seal off the protest site, triggering clashes that have left 39 dead and hundreds injured.
The violence, which eased Tuesday with only sporadic gunfire, turned parts of the city of 12 million into no-go zones as troops used live ammunition against protesters, who fought back mainly with homemade weapons.
bron: www.bangkokpost.com 19/05/2010
Breakingnews
**Tanks, soldiers standing by at Silom**
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Tanks, armoured cars and about 1,000 soldiers were deployed at Silom and Saladaeng areas awaiting the order to crackdown on red-shirt protesters at the Ratchaprasong intersection, reports said.
Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said early morning on Wednesday that the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Government (CRES) had sent tanks and more troops to Saladaeng rally site of the red-shirts.
He ordered security guards on duty at all checkpoints to be alert for any crackdown. He told red-shirted supporters to get ready for the situation, while women, children and elderly were advised to move to nearby Wat Pathumwanaram which is believed to be safety zone.
Two army helicopters were seen flying over the Ratchaprasong area, while the red-shirts fired homemade bamboo rockets at them, said the report.
Earlier, military officer used loudspeaker warning red-shirt protesters at Saladaeng to disperse within 15 minutes. However, the deadline had passed by but no military action took place.
T zou begonnen zijn…
Sorry om je zo cru tegen te spreken FOUT.
Dat de media aan overakting doen weten we, maar van de Be Ambassade en van mensen die in Bkk wonen weet ik dat de rellen zich snel verplaatsen en OVERAL in de stad (centrum) kunnen opduiken al dan niet verbonden met de redshirts. Het gaat hem niet over bezette plaatsen maar over de losstaande rellen.
MVG Frank
Er is iets van
Laatste rechtstreeks van de Thaise Engelse Netwerk TAN
Gepantsede voertuigen zijn door de barricades gebroken.
Helicopters overvliegen het kamp en worden met rakketjes beshoten.
Niemand is er zeker van of dit DE crackdown is.
Het zou hem nog altijd om de ouderen, vrouwen en kinderen gaan.
De Thaise Eerste Minister zegt nog altijd open te staan voor gesprekken.
Frank
Volgens het radionieuws op de vrt ook al eerste traangas gebruikt.
Troops launch assault on reds
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The chances of peace talks ended abruptly at dawn on Wednesday as troops gathered at the Silom intersection to attack red shirt fortifications, as protesters set fires within their barricades and vowed to resist.
The government ordered the red shirts to end their rally, but more than a kilometre away on the main stage, red shirt leaders and entertainers carried on.
EARLIER REPORT:
Peace talks offer put on the table
The government is poised to enter into negotiations with the red shirts to put an end to the chaos after the protest leaders agreed to Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej acting as a mediator in the talks.
The decision on the talks was reached last night at a meeting of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship’s 15 leaders and three representatives of a group of 55 senators.
The government earlier yesterday insisted that dialogue was only possible after the red shirt leaders called an end to their demonstrations.
Senator Lertrat Rattanawanich said after the two hours of discussions the content and format of the potential talks and the level of negotiations between the two sides had not been finalised.
“The UDD leaders agreed to call for all red shirt protesters, especially those positioned outside the Ratchaprasong area, such as at Bon Kai, Lumpini Park and Din Daeng, to end their violence now and enter into peace talks,” Gen Lertrat told a news conference at the Ratchaprasong rally site.
"The UDD leaders agree that it is time to end the violence and to have an immediate ceasefire.
“I’m not sure to what extent the prime minister will agree to the potential talks. But this is better than not trying,” Gen Lertrat said when asked whether aborted talks in the past would bar the government from entering into the deal.
The senators will convey the conclusion of the proposed talks to the government today.
Gen Lertrat said Mr Prasobsuk had twice spoken to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva about the idea.
Mr Abhisit initially agreed to have about 60 senators involved.
“We hope the government will accept the UDD’s offer for talk,” Gen Lertrat said.
His announcement, which was broadcast over loudspeakers at the rally site, drew immediate anger from protesters when he referred to “the unintentional use of violence against protesters”.
“I believe the past violence occurred because there were no proper measures [by the state and the protesters] implemented, and this is why it led to the unintentional use of weapons against each other,” he said in reference to incidents in which protesters were killed.
Most protesters greeted the speech by gathering in front of the stage to yell at and jeer the senator.
Some reached him back stage. They shouted in anger at the announcement because it was “soldiers who killed their friends”, not them who used violence.
UDD leader Natthawut Saikua tried to calm the protesters by saying the leaders would not negotiate with the government to seek an amnesty for themselves and the government figures who dispersed the protest on April 10.
Mr Jatuporn also told protesters who had camped at the outer gates of the rally site that they were free to use their own judgement on how and what to do should government forces try to disperse the rally at Ratchaprasong.
He said the leaders could not coordinate with those surrounding the area.
PM’s Office Minister Sathit Wongnongtoey said during a broadcast on the TV pool yesterday afternoon that the government had tried to engage in dialogue with the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship leaders to quell the violence and resolve the conflict peacefully but its attempts were rebuffed by the UDD because of interference by “a mastermind from overseas”, clearly referring to ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
Mr Sathit said Mr Abhisit had telephoned Mr Prasobsuk to explain that the government wanted to engage in dialogue to solve the problem.
However, the prime minister stressed that the government would only re-enter peace talks after the UDD leaders had called an end to their demonstrations.
The situation is out of control after protesters turned to violence and armed militants took up war weapons to attack the authorities and members of the public, Mr Sathit said.
He said the prime minister had asked the senate speaker to hold talks with the UDD leaders to find ways to stop armed militants from attacking people with war weapons.
“The government will go ahead with its efforts to contain the Ratchaprasong area to restore peace and order,” Mr Sathit said.
In a related development, Banharn Silpa-archa, chief adviser to the Chart Pattana Party, said yesterday he was ready to act as a go-between for the government and the UDD leaders.
He called on the red shirts to end their protest in all areas of Bangkok first.
When the demonstrations end, he would then ask the government to withdraw its troops and return them to the barracks.
Mr Banharn said the coalition parties would act as “guarantors”. If the government failed to pull out the troops, the coalition parties would leave the government, Mr Banharn said.
Speaking at the Thai Journalists Association yesterday, Gothom Arya, director of Mahidol University’s Research Centre on Peace Building, said networks of peace advocates wanted an immediate end to the mass killings and a joint effort to save lives.
He urged the protesters and government forces to put some distance between themselves to avoid confrontation.bron:http://www.bangkokpost.com
Troops, armoured vehicles converge on Silom
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Hundreds of police and troops, backed by armoured vehicles, converged on the red-shirt protesters’ camp in Bangkok early Wednesday, raising fears of an imminent crackdown.
Twelve armoured personnel carriers (APCs) with machine guns mounted on top arrived in the Silom business district, and two took up positions in front of the protesters’ homemade barricades before dawn.
Nearby, several trucks dropped off troops wearing balaclavas and carrying weapons and riot shields.
Hundreds of armed police were forming lines in Sukhumvit Road, a main thoroughfare leading into the protest zone, backed up by some 20 police vans on the roadside.
Buildings around Din Daeng and Bon Kai areas including the Office Narcotics Control Board were set on fire in the morning. Heavy smoke was seen covering Chulalongkorn Hospital as it was considering whether to evacuate patients.
PM’s secretary-general Korbsak Sabhavasu said in a television inerview on Wednesday morning that the government is determined to disperse the rally today and the only option left for the red-shirts is to surrender and enter the justice process.
Mr Korbsak said talks between the government and the UDD to be mediated by Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej has been completely ruled out now that government forces are determined to disperse the protesters.
What the protesters should do now is to stop burning and surrender, he said.
Senator Lertrat Rattanawanich, also in a television interview, said government forces looked posed to put an end to the rally.
The possibility of talks was already ruled out, he said.
Gen Lertrat said he was afraid there would be heavy casualties and damage following today’s military operation, which he expected to end today.
Army spokesman declined to comment on whether a crackdown was imminent against the protesters, who since Monday have defied a deadline to disperse after occupying Bangkok’s main retail district for six weeks.
“I will not answer any questions,” spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said.
Red-shirt leaders warned late Tuesday that they were concerned a crackdown would be launched at dawn, after the government ruled out negotiations until the demonstrators abandoned their heavily fortified rally base.
Security forces had battled with protesters since Thursday last week as they attempted to seal off the sprawling protest site, triggering clashes on the perimeter that left 39 dead and hundreds injured.
The violence, which eased Tuesday with only sporadic gunfire, turned parts of the city of 12 million into no-go zones as troops used live ammunition against protesters, who fought back mainly with homemade weapons.
“There’s a very significant reinforcement of troops on Silom,” a police officer from Lumpini district near the protest site said.
Asked whether a crackdown was under way he said: “Normally military will not inform police because this is a military operation alone.”
A police spokesman said Tuesday that there were still around 5,000 protesters, including hundreds of women and children, at the fortified site despite the fighting and a campaign for them to return home.
Government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said the campaign to contain the protest was progressing well but that the public “must be patient as the operation is taking time”.
“The operation will go ahead but the government will try to avoid confrontation and if there are losses they will be minimised,” he said Tuesday.
Amnesty International accused the army of “reckless use of lethal force” in its campaign to seal off the protest zone, which has left 39 dead and 279 wounded since Thursday.
UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay on Monday called on both sides to negotiate an end to the violence, saying there was a high risk it could “spiral out of control” after the expiry of Monday’s deadline.
“To prevent further loss of life, I appeal to the protesters to step back from the brink, and the security forces to exercise maximum restraint in line with the instructions given by the government,” she said.
But protesters were in defiant mood at their encampment late into the night Tuesday, dancing and waving heart-shaped clappers in front of a stage as leaders rallied the crowd.
The Reds are campaigning for elections to replace the administration of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, which they consider illegitimate because it came to power with the backing of the army in a 2008 parliamentary vote.
The Reds are mostly supporters of fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra who was ousted in a 2006 coup. A controversial court ruling ejected his elected allies from power, paving the way for Abhisit’s government to be appointed.http://www.bangkokpost