vond ik ook. Trouwens deze avond op Terzake (duidingsprogramma van Canvas) een reportage gezien over de situatie, met o.a. een interview met een Belg die al 20 jaar in Bkk woont. Ze staat nog niet op t net, maar van zodra dit wel het geval is, zal ik even een link toevoegen.
Grts,
Jelle
Sorry voor de linkhaters maar ik kon hem ni plakken !
Ism da Jelle ?
Voor zover ik zie is het deze:
En dan afzonderlijke onderwerpen bekijken: Belg over crisis in Bangkok.
Ik vond het een interessant standpunt
Jaja maar hij steekt in de pagina ( of link die ik doorstuurde ).
Ja klopt maar Thais gaan het toch iets anders uitleggen .
Tjah, en Nederlanders waarschijnlijk ook weer⊠
âŠiets te duur lol2lol2lol2lol2iets te link stout hĂ©âŠNEE stop nu stay to the point here !
Clashes keep city on edge
PM and Anupong fail to agree on crackdown, Thaksin joins call for UN intervention, Tentative approach to peace talks fails
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[li]Published: 18/05/2010 at 12:00 AM[/li][li]Newspaper section: News[/li][/ul]
Hopes that talks would fend off a military crackdown against the red shirt protesters faded last night after the government insisted the rallies and violence had to end first.
Fleeing the scene A family carrying a few essentials flees the Bon Kai community yesterday as fighting between red shirt protesters and government forces since Friday has turned Rama IV Road into a battlefield. APICHIT JINAKUL
Government and United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) mediators were close to agreeing to talks as the military backed off from sweeping remaining protesters out of the Ratchaprasong area.
But the talks failed to go ahead and tensions remained high at the red shirtsâ main encampment for the past two months in anticipation of the military moving in with massive reinforcements.
The Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation had given the remaining demonstrators until 3pm yesterday to clear the area before the sweep began.
But Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and army leader Anupong Paojinda could not agree on the timing to intensify the military operation to end the seizure of the central Bangkok area and the plan was deferred, a source at the CRES said.
The military will not rush in and disperse the Ratchaprasong red shirt protesters, the source said, although the prime minister had encouraged his commanders to speed up their preparations to retake the protest site by today (Tuesday).
Gen Anupong did not want the security forces to be hastily deployed as he was concerned about the risk of casualties among troops and protesters.
âWhen weâre ready, weâll reach our final goal at the Ratchaprasong intersection. But right now, thereâs still a high risk of lots of casualties,â the CRES source said.
Most of the remaining protesters are children, women and old people who are refusing to leave the protest site, he said.
When the 3pm deadline approached, observers saw that most of the active protesters had moved out and had left only the elderly and women, many with babies and children. The majority of them had taken up position in the front row of the main stage. But their numbers were far fewer than seen on previous days before the deadline was announced and the frontline protesters began to move to new trouble sites.
Redshirt protesters usemoretyres to disrupt security operations at Bon Kai. WEERAWONGWONGPREEDEE
The Sala Daeng intersection is deserted yesterday. SAROT MEKSOPHAWANNAKUL
Red shirt leader Natthawut Saikua urged the prime minister not to rule out peace talks with the protesters just yet even though the earlier negotiations had proved fruitless.
Agroup of people set fire to tyres onRamaIV Road near a fuel tanker seized from a PTT petrol station.Someprotesters tried to cause the tanker to explode. THITIWANNAMONTHA
âMr Abhisit should not rule out potential talks based on the fact that the earlier rounds failed,â he said. âEven though this may take time, I believe itâs better than letting the killings continue.â
The UDD leader, however, insisted the protesters would not end the rally quickly even though this was a condition set by the government should they want to resume peace talks.
The UDD will wait until Tuesday for an answer from the United Nations to their request to act as a mediator with the government. After that, the group will consider other ways to bring about peace talks, he said.
Ousted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, in a statement, also urged the UN to step in to solve the crisis.
Dusit Thani Hotel shows signs of damagefrom grenade attacks on Sunday night. THITI WANNAMONTHA
Korbsak Sabhavasu, secretary-general to the prime minister, made clear the renewed negotiations would never come about until the demonstrators dispersed.
âNegotiations can happen if the protest stops and its leaders surrender. But if this does not happen, they [the UDD leaders] should tell the mobs to stop the rioting and the burning of the city and tyres. As Mr Natthawut said he could issue orders, does this mean that he ordered the mobs to create violence?â Mr Korbsak asked.
The government demanded the protesters end their rallies and riots first and then negotiations could start, he said.
Acting government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said UDD leaders could prove they sincerely supported negotiations by ending the protest, riots and attacks on government officials and innocent people.
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Blacksmokefrom burning tyres billows into the sky near Victory Monument. APICHART JINAKUL
Senate Speaker Prasobsuk Boondej said a meeting of 64 senators had called on parties involved in the conflict to end the violence and enter a fresh round of peace talks. Some senators had offered to mediate the peace talks, he said.
There was little change at the cityâs hot spots yesterday as clashes, vandalism and shootings continued, building to a new level after the CRESâs deadline for the red shirts to end their protest at 3pm passed.
The clashes between the red shirts and security forces from May 14 to 17 have left 35 people dead. Over 270 people, including seven foreigners, have been injured in sporadic clashes in the city, the Erawan Emergency Centre reported yesterday.
Amanwheels an elderlywomanto safety in the Ratchaprarop area after a clash between soldiers and protesters. APICHART JINAKUL
In the Bon Kai area on Rama IV Road, one of the major flashpoints, red shirt protesters seized a petrol tanker and parked it in front of Soi Ngam Dupli near a PTT petrol station. Occasional bullets were seen grazing the tanker.
Prateep Ungsongtham-Hata, a UDD co-leader, denied the UDD took the vehicle into the area. She also set up a stage at the Klong Toey intersection.
In the Din Daeng area and Pathumwan intersection, security forces clashed with protesters.
In other provinces, two bomb attacks were reported at ATMs of Siam Commercial Bank and TMB Bank in Chiang Mai about 3am yesterday.
A hand grenade attack was also reported at a Bangkok Bank branch in Klong 2 area on Lam Luk Ka Road of Pathum Thani at about 20 minutes after midnight yesterday.
Anunidentifiedhoodedmandressed in black ridesamotorcycleonRama IV Road in the Bon Kai area.bron:http://www.bangkokpost.com
Boy, 12, arrested for arson
Published: 18/05/2010 at 11:35 AM
Online news: Breakingnews
Security forces have arrested a 12-year-old boy for allegedly setting fire to buildings around Din Daeng intersection during the mayhem in the capital on Tuesday
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Pol Col Chatree Kanchanakanti, superintendent of Din Daeng police station, said the boy travelled from Kamphaeng Phet province to Bangkok for a visit and met some red-shirts who gave him free food.
The boy, who was excited by scenes of explosions and fighting, admitted he had set fire to buildings for fun, Pol Col Chatree said.
Empty townhouses next to a branch of Bangkok Bank were set on fire on Tuesday morning. About 10 fire trucks were called out to fight the blaze.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
UDD leader admits protest funds come from Thaksin
Published: 18/05/2010 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: News
A United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship leader has admitted the red shirt rally has received financial support from ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan, the former deputy leader of the dissolved Thai Rak Thai party
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âI accept that Thaksin himself and some politicians, including Khunying Sudarat, have given us financial support, as have other donors, but I donât know how much theyâve donated,â UDD co-leader Jaran Dithapichai said on the Ratchaprasong rally stage last night.
âWhatâs wrong with that? Rallies have costs and we need donors. Even other UDD members and myself have had to spend our personal funds on the rally.â
Mr Jaranâs statement came after the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES) announced plans on Sunday to freeze the financial transactions of 106 people and companies it believed had provided funding for red shirt activities.
A CRES source said the ban would be extended to cover at least 10 other individuals and companies including Work Supply Co, BBD Development Co, BBD Property Co and SC Asset Corporation.
A photographer spotted ex-premier Thaksin shopping at a Louis Vuitton store in Paris last Saturday.
Department of Special Investigation chief Tharit Pengdit yesterday met Col Sihanart Prayoonrat, acting secretary-general of the Anti-Money Laundering Office, representatives of the Office of the Narcotics Control Board and representatives of the Revenue Department.
They later briefed representatives of more than 80 financial institutions, banks, securities companies, life insurance companies and cooperatives on the CRESâs requirement that they submit details of the financial transactions of people and companies on the banned list between Sept 1, 2009, and May 17, 2010.
Executives of any financial institution that fails to abide by the CRES order could face up to two years in jail and a 40,000 baht fine. The penalty would apply to each transaction that the firms fail to report to the CRES.
Puea Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the ban was irrational as some party MPs on the list had never been involved in red shirt activities.
âThe government should revoke the ban because what theyâre doing wonât stop peopleâs protests,â Mr Prompong said. âInstead, it will provoke more protests around the country.â
Bangkok Puea Thai MP Anudit Nakorntap said almost all party MPs for the city, apart from Danuporn Punnakan, were included on the banned list.
He suspected the CRES was trying to undermine the Puea Thai chances in Bangkokâs district assembly elections on June 6.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
Ja ja, Thaksin leeft echt mee met zân aanhangersâŠ
Graaier ,zakkenvuller , terwijl de armste creperen.
Krijgen ze eindelijk eens een echte LV tas dan die namaak troep die ze daar verkopen.
Tourist arrivals drop sharply
Published: 18/05/2010 at 11:41 AM
Online news: Economics
The intensifying political violence has pounded the countryâs tourist industry, with arrivals down by about one third, Tourism and Sports Minister Chumpol Silpa-archa said on Tuesday.
The number of incoming passengers at Suvarnabhumi airport had dwindled from an average 30,000 to 20,000 passengers a day, as foreigners were concerned about the widespread chaos and the security situation, Mr Chumpol said.
He said 19 countries had warned their people to avoid visiting Thailand at this time.
âThe number of tourists has dropped considerably,â the minister said.** âThe government was hoping that tourism in the South would see a boost but it is now more difficult as foreigners think that the unrest is occurring nationwide.â**
On the measures to revive the tourism sector after the political situation stabilises, he said the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) had prepared plans to stimulate tourism in the third and fourth quarters of this year.
When the yellow-shirt Peopleâs Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protesters seized airports in late 2008, the TAT was able to raise the tourist arrivals from 10 million to 14 million that year after it was over, the minister said.
âThe government hopes this yearâs tourist arrivals will reach the target with the time remaining,â he said.
Mr Chumpol refused to comment on whether the government would last until the end of this year.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
Is het nu complete anarchie onder red shirts, ik lees nl berichten dat de leiders geen controle meer hebben.
Dan de black shirts nog.
Komt er een crack down of toch een oog door de naald oplossing nl besprekingen?
De regering staat gigantisch onder internationale druk.
:chin:waar gaat het hier over
:chin: Ik blijf in deze neutraal bijde partijen zijn volgens mij corrupt.hoort bij het land zullen we maar zeggen:THAILAND:
Bron ADNL
Thaise overheid weigert wapenstilstand
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Het regeringsleger legt de wapens nog niet neer. FOTO EPA/RUNGROJ YONGRIT
BANGKOK - De Thaise overheid wil niet ingaan op een voorstel van de oppositionele betogers tot een wapenstilstand te komen. Het aanbod is âânonsensââ, aldus vice-premier Suthep Thaugsuban dinsdag.
Volgens hem is een wapenstilstand niet nodig, omdat niet op burgers wordt geschoten. ââHet bevel is dat het gebied waar de demonstranten zich bevinden wordt bewaakt. Er mogen geen mensen in, maar wel mensen uitââ, aldus Suthep.
Oppositievoerder Nattawut Saikuar bood maandag aan de demonstranten terug te roepen naar hun hoofdkwartier als het leger zou stoppen met schieten. Ook stelde hij een overleg voor dat geleid zou moeten worden door de voorzitter van de Senaat.
Door het geweld tussen het leger en de roodhemden, die het vertrek van de regering eisen, zijn de afgelopen dagen zeker 38 mensen om het leven gekomen. Onder hen was ook de militaire leider van de roodhemden, Khattiya Sawasdipol. Hij bezweek aan zijn verwondingen nadat hij donderdag tijdens een protest door het hoofd was geschoten. (ANP)
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Reds accept senate speakerâs offer to mediate
Published: 18/05/2010 at 02:17 PM
Online news: Local News
The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) said on Tuesday it unconditionally accepts Senate Speaker Prasopsuk Boondejâs offer to mediate truce talks with the government.
UDD leader Natthawut Saikua said the UDD accepted the offer, wanted to urgently end the ongoing violence, and had called on the government to stop shooting at the protesters.
âThe UDD agrees to accept the offer by the senate speaker to mediate the talks, and we are ready to take part from now on,â Mr Natthawut said.
The UDD was unconditionally ready to negotiate. However, senators who would mediate the talks must not include members of the group of 40 pro-government senators, he said.
Mr Natthawut said the UDD had left it to Mr Prasopsuk to arrange the talks with the government.
Weng Tojirakarn, another UDD leader, said the red-shirts were still able to occupy the Ratchaprasong rally site. Some protesters were still able to move in and out of the protest site, food was still abundant, and smaller stages had been set up around the main stage at Ratchaprasong.
UDD core members were trying to enter talks with the government for a ceasefire, he said.
Earlier on Tuesday, Jatuporn Prompan, a UDD leader and Puea Thai MP, confirmed that Mr Prasopsukâs offer was being considered, adding that the situation now was far more serious than that during the Black May incident in 1992.
He said the violence on Ratchaprarop road and in Bon Kai area was beyond control because the protesters were highly emotional.
The protesters set car tyres ablaze so they could hide in the smoke and avoid being shot by soldiers, especially snipers, Mr Jatuporn said.
He denied having a conflict with UDD chairman Veera Musikhapong, but admitted they held different opinions.
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Acting government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva was aware of the UDDâs new stance and would speak out on this matter himself.
âWe have no position on that yet. The prime minister has been informed but does not have an immediate position on it,â Mr Panithan said.
He added that Korbsak Sabhavasu, the prime ministerâs secretary-general, had negotiated with Mr Natthawut many times. Mr Natthawut kept changing his position on a daily basis and had increasingly become hard to understand.
However, the government was always ready to consider any possible resolution of the problem, provided that the UDD stop the ongoing riot and recall the protesters who were scattering back to Ratchaprasong.
Mr Panitan said Mr Nathawut was in a position to respond to this call right away.
He said the prime minister was closely monitoring the situation.
Former prime minister Banharn Silpa-archa, chief adviser of the Chart Thai Pattana Party, on Tuesday called for the UDD to ugrently end the protest rally today or tomorrow.
Mr Banharn said once the UDD agreed he would immediately ask the government to withdraw the troops and police now confronting the protesters.
If the government refused to do so, the Chart Thai Pattana Party would withdraw from the government, he said.
Mr Banharn said too much damage had been done to the country and this could not be allowed to continue.
Street fighting continues throughout the capital on Tuesday, with a 12-year-old boy arrested in the morning for allegedly settng fire to buildings around Din Daeng intersection.
The unofficial death toll from clashes between troops and protesters has risen to 37, with 282 people injured, Erawan emergency centre said in the morning.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *