deze redenering kun je ook omdraaien de roden zijn het geweld begonnen om de gelen in een kwaad daglicht te stellen.
het is vreselijk wat er is gebeurt, maar helaas valt het niet meer terug te draaien.
het is te hopen dat beide partijen inzien dat geweld niets oplost en men zich houdt aan de voorgestelde,evt aangepaste, road map.
maar belangrijker nog dat men de verkiezingsuitslag accepteerd want anders hebben de verkiezingen geen zin.
Dat zou je kunnen doen als je niet nadenkt.
Maar na de bezetting van het vliegveld is de macht overgenomen door de gele, zonder verkiezingen te houden ondanks beschuldigingen naar de rode kant ivm fraude, wat dus niet gebruikelijk zou moeten zijn als je een democratie hanteert, het zal wel een bananenrepubliek blijven maar je weet in ieder geval waar je aan toe bent.
Maar laat de rust maar weer spoedig wederkeren.
PM gives ultimatum to reds
**UDD unable to decide on when to end protest **
Published: 10/05/2010 at 12:00 AM
Newspaper section: News
The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship has left everyone in confusion after being pressed by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva for the exact date on which it will lift its rally to oust the government.
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Key red shirt leaders Veera Musikhapong, Natthawut Saikua and Chatuporn Prompan cancelled a press conference and held an urgent meeting yesterday to counter the fresh demand by the prime minister.
After three hours of talks, Mr Chatuporn said the UDD could not come up with a common position. More talks were needed before a final decision.
Mr Abhisit gave the UDD until today to give an exact timeframe for the end of its rallies which have paralysed parts of the inner city. He also accused former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra of standing in the way of efforts to end political rifts.
The red shirts have agreed in principle to join the reconciliation process unveiled by Mr Abhisit last Monday . The prime ministerâs plan to end political divisions could pave the way for elections on Nov 14.
The UDD has yet to say when it will ask demonstrators to lift their occupation of the shopping and business district in Ratchaprasong.
Shooting and grenade attacks on Friday night and Saturday morning worry the prime minister.
He suggested yesterday the attacks were the work of âterroristsâ who did not want to the rallies to end, as they face the threat of legal action and criminal charges once the reds go home.
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That worry prompted Mr Abhisit to demand the UDD give him an answer by today.
Any delay would put the safety of the public, officials and demonstrators at risk as opponents of the road map proposal could strike again, he said.
âWe need an answer so we can move forward,â he said in his weekly address to the country.
The prime minister also made clear that dispersing the demonstration on May 15 as the UDD has proposed would be âtoo lateâ given the dangers posed.
Mr Abhisit said he would shelve his proposed elections if the rallies continue.
Politicians also need guarantees they will be safe on the election campaign trail, he said.
âIf all points in the reconciliation plan are achieved, I can say the government will be ready for the elections on Nov 14. If not, the elections will not take place,â he said.
The prime minister also accused his political rival, Thaksin, of standing in the way of the governmentâs reconciliation efforts.
Mr Abhisit is soliciting support for his five-point reconciliation plan. But Thaksin, he said, was one of the obstacles.
âMr Thaksin is not satisfied with the reconciliation plan because it is not the answer to Mr Thaksinâs personal interests in court cases and other matters,â he said.
Thaksin was sentenced to two years jail in absentia by the Supreme Courtâs Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions in 2008 for abusing his authority in the Ratchadaphisek land deal in 2003.
His wife at the time, Potjaman na Pombejra, clinched the deal while Thaksin was in power.
In February, the court ordered the seizure of 46 billion baht in assets belonging to Thaksin and his immediate family after ruling that a portion of the fortune was derived from policy corruption during his tenure as prime minister.
Mr Natthawut said Mr Abhisitâs attack on Thaksin could spoil the atmosphere as the red shirts and the government worked on how to solve the political crisis. He should not have made the comments, the UDD leader said.
Thaksin did not react to Mr Abhisitâs attack yesterday. He said on Twitter that he was in Saudi Arabia on a rice trade mission.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
Het land schudt op zijn politieke instabiliteit.
De Roden,Gelen,Multi Colours,en splinter groeperingen het is inderdaad te hopen dat men het ooit eens wordt.
Als ik de thenationmultimedia vandaag bekijk dan is het afgelopen nacht weer raak geweest.
Terzijde
mmm 500 miljard wordt er in noodleidende Europese landen gepompt en dan nog wat extra door het IMF.
Terugbetalen is niet mogelijk zeker niet als je kijkt wat de schuld per hoofd van de bevolking is.
Ik voorzie ook hier div aggresieve toestanden als de hardwerkende man/vrouw totaal wordt leeg getrokken door een falend financieel systeem.
Elke regering coalitie komt met mooie woorden.
In aanloop naar de verkiezingen komt men met mooie beloftes die niet waar te maken zijn.
Na het zuur komt het zoet, het omvallen van de huizenmarkt in de USA zou ons niet raken ect ect,âŠ
Als je niets hebt dan knok je met schaarse middelen voor elke verbetering en dat doen de Roden nu nog op een vreedzame manier.
In Griekenland sloegen ze er meteen op los.
Hopen maar.
vind jou reactie niet echt van nadenken getuigen.
wilde aangeven dat wijzen naar de rode, gele ,blauwe of welke kkleur geen zin heeft men moet vooruit kijken en de komende verkiezingsuitslag accepteren, wat de uitslag ook is.
vrees alleen dat dit niet gebeurt.
Behoorlijk heftig allemaal. We vertrekken vrijdag richting Bangkok. Hopen dat alles goedkomt.
:chin:Kan ook Thaise maffia zijn die gebaat is bij onrust?
in Thailand is het voor een buitenstaander moeilijk om over teoordelen daarom blijf ik zelf liever neutraal.
maar hoop wel dat de rust snel weer keerd 
UDD unveils âred mapâ
Published: 10/05/2010 at 05:57 PM
Online news: Local News
The anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has come up with its own version of the reconciliation plan known as the âred mapâ to respond to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajivaâs five-point road map to end the political stand-off.
The UDD leaders met late Monday afternoon to discuss Mr Abhisitâs reconciliation plan and his demand for an end to the prolonged anti-government rally in Bangkokâs Ratchaprasong business district.
The meeting ended about 5pm. The UDD leaders announced they were âhappyâ with the result and their own âred mapâ reconciliation plan.
They said the their âred mapâ will be proposed to the government for consideration. No details were given during the initial anouncement.
Prime Ministerâs Office Minister Sathit Wongnongtoey said earlier the government will take legal action if the UDD leaders remain undecided when to end their protest rally.
Mr Sathit said if the UDD came up with a clear response today it would be raised for consideration at tomorrowâs cabinet meeting, which would be held at Government House not the 11th Infantry Regiment headquarters.
By 6pm, there was no indication of an agreement
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, in his Sunday television programme âConfidence in Thailand with PM Abhisitâ issued an ultimatum to UDD leaders, to come up with a decision on Monday when to end the rally or face government action.
He said the government could not afford to wait any longer because the prolonged rally would only cause more damage.
However, one of the UDD leaders Jatuporn Prompan vowed on Monday to fight on until justice is served for those who were killed and injured in clashes between troops and protesters last month.
âI donât care about who wants it [rally] to end, but I wonât,â he said before a meeting with other protest leaders to discuss their position after Prime minister Abhisit pressed them for an exact date on which they will lift their rallies.
âIf authorities still are not pursuing these cases. For me, I would prefer death,â Mr Jatuporn said.
Red-shirt leaders do not want amnesty for themselves, but they want a single standard applied to all, he said.
Mr Jatuporn said he also would like to ask society if they want to see cases relating to the UDD be treated as special cases, while cases against the government or anti-UDD groups are put on hold.
He then slammed Mr Abhisitâs reconciliation road map, saying that it was no more than a tool to manipulate society to put pressure on the UDD to end the rally.
UDD core member Kwanchai Praipana said the group could not reach a decision when to end the rally because secret negotiations with government representatives had run into stumbling blocks.
The leader of the red shirts of Udon Thani said the UDD had in fact finished its own road map for reconciliation to be proposed to the government.
However, UDD leaders, in a tense meeting on Sunday night, could not agree when to end the rally at Ratchapasong intersection because during their secret talks with government representatives the government did not agree to the release of all 24 UDD leaders on bail after being charged with illegal assembly in violation of the emergency decree.
"The government did not want four of us to be granted bail. The four are myself, Suporn Atthawong, Arisman Pongruangrong and Pol Lt-Col Waipot Apornrat.
âThis is not fair. We should get the same treatment,â Mr Kwanchai told supporters from the Ratchaprasong protest stage.
Mr Kwanchai also said the government representatives also turned down the UDDâs call for legal action against Prime Minister Abhisit and Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban, in his capacity as director of the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situations (CRES), for ordering the crackdown on April 10.
âMr Abhisit does not want to enter the justice process. This is not acceptable to most of the UDD core members,â Mr Kwanchai said.
The Udon red-shirt leader said Mr Abhisit lacked sincerity in proposing the roadmap, which was far from being concrete. UDD leaders would have to think carefully because the government had not said clearly when it would dissolve the House of Representatives.
âWe need to ask the people whether our proposal to be submitted to the government is acceptable to them. Also, we donât know yet if it would be acceptable to the government,â he said.
Mr Kwanchai said Mr Abhisit and Mr Suthep had not only denied responsibility for the deaths and injuries to the protesters but also accused UDD leaders of being terrorists.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
Rally to end âwhen Suthep chargedâ
Published: 10/05/2010 at 07:15 PM
Online news: Breakingnews
The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship on Monday announced it would end the rally at the Ratchaprasong intersection once Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban surrenders to fight the charges of ordering the crackdown on the red-shirt protesters on April 10.
The crackdown resulted in 25 people killed, including five soldiers, and more than 800 others wounded.
The UDD called for police to issue a warrant for Mr Suthepâs arrest in connection with the crackdown.
Shortly after the UDD made this announcement, acting government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said Mr Suthep, in his capacity as director of the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situations (CRES), would report to the Department of Special Investigation tomorrow, May 11, to hear the charges to be filed against him.
The UDD stopped short of seeking legal action against Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, saying that he is protected by the immunity of being a parliamentarian.
Mr Suthep resigned as MP following after the National Counter Corruption Commission ruled that he had violated the constitution by holding shares in businesses linked to the government.
Once Mr Suthep surrendered, the rally at the Ratchaprasong intersection would end, the UDD said.
The UDD said it had no objection to the prime ministerâs proposed election date for Nov 14 and House dissolution during the second half of September.
However, it called for the government to end its practice of employing double-standards and to allow its mouthpiece, the People Channel, to go on air as usual.
In the latest development, the UDD said it would not be acceptable to the red shirts if Mr Suthep surrendered to the DSI. It demanded that Mr Suthep surrendered to police only.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *
Vind het persoonlijk echter een reĂ«le manier van denken, want de roden hebben dat voor elkaar wat ze wilden âverkiezingenâ dus wat heeft het dan voor nut om 2 agenten vanuit naar ik meen een rijdende auto om te leggen.
helaas is het verhaal van verkiezingen nog niet zeker op het moment, want de roden hebben hun eigen red map nu neergelegd bij de regering en ze hebben gezegd dat de road map een tool is op de society te manipuleren en de roden onder druk te zetten.
zie bangkokpost.
dus er is een kans dat het weer van voren af aan begint helaas
Ik kom gewoon lekker op vakantie :vak02:
ja dat moet je zo wie zo doen zou alleen geen rooie of gele shirts in de koffer doen.
wanneer ga je >>>:vak02: en hoe lang
Jan, zou je dat nou wel doen ? Denk toch dat het beter is om thuis te blijven tegen die tijd⊠Die tickets neem ik wel van je over tegen een scherp prijsje, daar hoef je je echt geen zorgen over te maken 
wat een nobele daad om je zo op te offerenlol2
12-10 t/m 5/11 dus is nog even weg, en doe een half geel en half rood t-shirt aan lol2.
Ach ja, ik doe het niet van harte, maar wat moet, dat moet nou eenmaalâŠ
Btw, ik heb net je BKK Post artikel ff weggehaaldâŠzelfde artikel stond al paar postings naar boven 
Trek een mooi regenboog-shirt aanâŠdan weet je zeker dat je goed zitâŠ
Heb ze notabene bij jou werkgever vandaan had eigenlijk wel wat korting verwacht, wil je ze nu ook nog op deze slinkse manier afhandig maken, nee hoor maak je geen zorgen ik laat me niet v/d wijs brengen door deze situatie.
Maak me eerder zorgen tegen die tijd of EVA wel vliegt aangezien ik je post zag omtrent naar ik meen 15/06 over de vlucht van EVA en het veranderen van de vloot wat tegenwoordig gebeurt of zo een kl****te vulkaan.