Waar wachten de reds nu nog op ?
Ze mogen stillekes aan vertrekken, want ik stap sebiet op het vliegtuig richting Bangkok⊠Yiehaaaaa! :zon02: :dag:
Stuur ze maar weg als je er bent
Wantrouwen lees ik net
**Thai PM offers to dissolve Parliament in September if protesters cease Bangkok occupation**
** By: GRANT PECK
Associated Press
05/06/10 10:25 AM EDT **
BANGKOK â Thailand's prime minister said Thursday he would dissolve Parliament in September, paving the way for new elections demanded by anti-government protesters if they end their crippling occupation of Bangkok's commercial district.
But in a sign of the deep mistrust between the opposing sides, the demonstrators said they would not go home until the government made its promise official and specified a date for the legislatureâs dissolution.
On Monday, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva unveiled a roadmap to reconciliation that included an offer of new elections on Nov. 14 â about a year before his term would end â if they pulled out of their barricaded encampment in the heart of the Thai capital.
Leaders of the anti-government movement, known as the Red Shirts, welcomed that plan, which takes into account the protestersâ main grievances. It includes respect for the monarchy, reforms to resolve economic injustice, free but responsible media to be overseen by an independent watchdog agency, independent investigations of violent incidents connected with the protests, and amendment of the constitution to be more fair to all political parties.
The Red Shirts, who draw most of their supporters from Thailandâs rural and urban poor, view Abhisitâs government as a symbol of an elite impervious to their plight. They say he rose to power illegitimately through back-room deals and military pressure on legislators.
The nearly two-month standoff in Bangkok has paralyzed vital areas of the capital, hammered the economy, decimated the tourist industry and ground government machinery to a near halt. Clashes with soldiers and other violence have killed 27 people and injured nearly 1,000.
On Wednesday night, about 10,000 demonstrators packed a premier shopping district, which has been the center of their encampment, said army spokesman Col. Sansern Kaewkamnerd. He said the crowd size has been on a âdownward trendâ after highs last month of several tens of thousands.
Abhisit is insisting on a total pullout.
âIf they donât go home, Iâm not going to dissolve Parliament,â Abhisit said in a live interview on ASTV. Other Thai media quoted Abhisit as saying the dissolution could take place Sept. 15 to 30.
âI repeat, I am not negotiating with anybody,â Abhisit said in the interview, but added he was inviting everyone into a reconciliation process, âincluding the protesters.â
Meanwhile, Red Shirt protest leaders demanded the opposite scenario.
âItâs impossible for protesters to disperse before the government announces the Parliament dissolution,â said Nattawut Saikua, a protest leader. âA mutual agreement needs to be reached first.â
The timing of the dissolution has been a crucial issue because a key reshuffle of top military posts scheduled for September. Itâs not clear if a caretaker government, which would run the country after Parliament is dissolved, would be allowed to make the appointments.
Protest leaders say Abhisitâs proposal is too vague and they need clarity.
On Wednesday, Thais put aside their political animosity to honor the countryâs ailing monarch on the 60th anniversary of his coronation, and his rare public appearance inspired thousands lining the streets to chant âLong Live the King!â
The highly revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej emerged in a wheelchair from a Bangkok hospital to preside over the ceremonies. The 82-year-old king, the worldâs longest reigning monarch, has been hospitalized for the past nine months with what the palace initially described as a lung inflammation.
The monarch made no comment on the political stalemate. Many Thais had hoped the king, who ascended the throne in 1946 but was officially crowned on May 5, 1950, might broker a peaceful solution to the crisis, as he did in 1973 when he stopped bloodshed during a student uprising and again in 1992 during antimilitary street protests.
The protest group includes supporters of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra who was ousted in a 2006 military coup following accusations of corruption and abuse of power.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economy/thai-pm-abhisit-vejjajiva-offers-to-dissolve-parliament-if-protesters-cease-bangkok-occupation-92946464.html#ixzz0nA1511Ug
Misschien een uiteindelijke doorbraak
Reds to announce their decision on the road map at 6 pm
By The Nation
**The red-shirt leaders on Friday concluded a crucial meeting on the road map for reconciliation. A press conference is scheduled for 6.00 pm.**
The leaders appeared relaxed and smiling when emerged from the two-hour meeting.
Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan said there might be some counter proposals designed to enhance and clarify the road map.
Conflicting speculations spreaded related to what the red shirtsâ final say on the road map would be.
Sources said thered shirtsmight start to disband the rally site by Monday if everything went as planned. But some said thered shirtswould call for the reinforcement of protesters from the Northeast.
Redsâ protest to end Monday : Kwanchai
By The Nation
**Red shirts protest will be disbanded on May 10 (Monday) after a religious rite for those who were killed during the April 10 violence is held. **
The May 10 marks one month anniversary of the clashes between the troops and[red shirts](http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/search/adsearch.php?keyword=+red+shirts+)protesters in which 25 were killed and 800 others were injured.Kwanchai Praipana was saying after attending a meeting of[red shirts](http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/search/adsearch.php?keyword=+red+shirts+)leaders in a container which is used as their office at Rajprasong rally site.
However he said the leaders would ask the prime minister to lift the state of emergency in Bangkok and surrounding provinces.
They would also demand that their People station be allowed to air their programme again after the government blocked the signal.
Kwanchai said it would be difficult to explain the decision to the protesters.
The redsâ leaders are scheduled to talk to the protesters at 6pm.
Goed nieuws! Zonder zorgen naar Bangkok hopelijk!
Zoals ik het al heb gezegd een paar dagen geleden(het einde van de blokkade)het zal nog een paar dagen duren.
Ik hoop alleen maar dat na de verkiezingen(november)het weeral niet gaat beginnen met deze keer de yellows als aanstichters.
Reds decision on the road map, no date to disband rallies
**Red-shirt leader Natthawut Saikua outlined the reactions to the road map for reconciliation comprising:**
1. Agree with the government to uphold the monarchy and call on all sides to stop politicising the country's revered institution.
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Confirm not to seek amnesty on terrorist and anti-monarchy charges stemming from the protests. The reds are ready to fight their charges via the judicial process. Call for the inquiry into the violence incidents on April 10 and April 28 incidents.
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Urge all parties concerned to accept the election outcome. The reds will not push for a formal pact on the issue but leave it to the government to reason with the rival camps.
Natthawut said the reds would in the next few days issue the details of their road map to be implemented along with the one proposed by the government.
At the press conference, there was no mention about the date to disband the rallies.
De dokter zegt het doet even AU
**VEILIG ?
** Two policemen killed and many others injured in double attacks
By The Nation
**At least two policemen were killed while seven others policemen and two civilians were wounded in the double shooting and bomb attack on Silom Road and at a police checkpoint at Lumpini Park on Friday night. **
The first attack occurred at 10.45pm just in front of Krung Thai Bank near Soi Saladaeng. Assailants on a motorcycle opened fire at a group of policemen who were guarding in front of the bank.
The attack hit three policemen and two passer-bys. One of the policeman, Pol Cpl Kannupan Lertchanpen, suffered a serious wound on his stomach, died later at a hospital.
Police believed that the assailants on a motorcycle riding from Silom Road opened fire from a MC Donald shop opposite the bank before escaping to Rama IV Road.
The attack was on a small group of people protesting againstred shirtsat Saladaeng intersection. Police were keeping security there to prevent clashes between the two groups of protesters.
Firecracker explosions had been heard from Lumpini before the shooting.
Later at 1.30am Saturday morning, at least three M79 grenades were fired at a police and soldier checkpoint near Lumpini gate 4, injuring five police, one seriously.
The policeman, Pol Sgt Wittaya Promsalee, who suffered wounds on his chest, was pronounced dead at the hospital.
The injured policemen were deployed from from Hangnam Sakorn, Chainat province. They were rushed to Rama and Chulalongkorn hospitals.
Police spokesman Pol Lt Gen Pongsatat Pongcharoen said police believed the grenades were M79.
He said the two attacks must be done by the same group of people who want to destabilise the situation.
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Ik las bovenstaande net in de BKK Post. Was het de laatste dagen net relatief rustig, zijn er toch weer een paar van die figuren die onrust willen blijven zaaien en de voorgestelde âroadmapâ van PM Abhisit ondermijnen⊠En wie is hier nu weer verantwoordelijk voor ? De verschillende groepen zullen elkaar wel weer beschuldigen voor deze bomaanslagenâŠ
Tjaa,dit komt wel erg ongelegen dit incident,ik hoop dat ze de daders kunnen pakken.
Zodat ze weten tot welke groepering deze onruststokers horen.
De gewone mens(jan met de pet)zijn daar niet mee bezig,om op die wijze hun gelijk te halen.
Moest er nog in de toekomst nog zulke aanslagen gebeuren,dan is het voor ons(de farang) wel moeilijk om ergens te verblijven in Bkk,want het kan (bijwijze van spreken)voor je hotel gebeuren.
Jammer dat dit inderdaad gebeurd na enkele dagen van rust. Het leek de goede kant op te gaan. Hopelijk was dit enkel een incident. We vliegen in ieder geval vrijdag naar Bangkok
George, na 9/11 kunnen we helaas overal ter wereld dit soort dingen gebeuren/verwachten of je nu naar je werk gaat, winkelen, uitgaan, vakantie, ga zo maar door dus voor iedereen waar ook ter :wereld: zijn er nu gekken die denken dat hun moraal omtrent politiek, levenswijze of geloofsovertuiging ten koste moet gaan van het leven van onschuldige passanten & burgers dmv aanslagen.
Trouwens jaren geleden al als je bij sommige shoppingmalls in BKK je auto parkeerde werd er al met een spiegel onder de auto gekeken en dat zal heus niet zijn om te kijken of je uitlaat lek wasâŠ
Eerst wilde ik posten het ⊠zit hem in de staart.
Het lijkt er wel.
Hoe langer dit duurt,hoe groter de frustraties.
Ik begin wat symphatie te verliezen, elke keer is er weer een argument om de demonstraties NIET te beëindigen
Bovendien worden er nog even 2000 extra red shirts toegevoegd.
Wordt er een spelletje gespeeld of wil men echt vrede,dat laatste hoop ik maar.
**Red shirts to outline plan, ask for time**
By THE NATION ON SUNDAY
Published on May 9, 2010
**The red shirts yesterday postponed for another day or two their proposal for national reconciliation, with leaders saying they needed more time for "tidy and complete work".**
Nattawut Saikua, a protest leader, said the[red shirts](http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/search/adsearch.php?keyword=+red+shirts+)were well aware the whole country was waiting to see an "atmosphere of reconciliation" as soon as possible. "We won't be slow - the soonest is tomorrow and the latest is the day after tomorrow," he said.
Leaders of the protestingred shirtshad said that the plan, in response to Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajivaâs five-point âroad mapâ for political reconciliation unveiled last Monday, would be unveiled yesterday.
At their meeting yesterday, red shirt leaders agreed to part of the PMâs proposal and disagreed to some aspects, according to Nattawut. He said society might be encouraged to determine how the proposal could be put into practice although there was no need for a public referendum or hearing.
âWe are well aware that to find an exit [for the ongoing political conflict], we need to be flexible for reconciliation,â Nattawut said.
But he did not say when thered shirtswould end their protest, which has continued for more than a month at the Rajprasong shopping centre.
Other red shirt leaders -Jatuporn PromphanandwengTojirakarn - yesterday threatened to take legal action against Abhisit and Deputy PMSuthep Thaugsubanwho they said were responsible for the April 10 crackdown on protesters on Rajdamnoen Avenue that led to 25 deaths and more than 800 people being injured.
Meanwhile, government spokes-man Panitan Wattanayagorn yesterday urged the protesters to end their rally soon in order to prevent more violence, following attacks on Friday night in which two policemen were killed.
Panitan said the latest incidents showed a group of people did not want the PMâs reconciliation plan to take effect, Thai News Agency reported.
He said the PMâs secretary-general, Korbsak Sabhavasu, was assigned to confer with red shirt leaders about the reconciliation plan and asked them to âgive a response soonâ.
The government call came as 2,000 morered shirtswere driven from Khon Kaen to Rajprasong yesterday.
@ Searcher,
Dit kun je niet menen âsympathie verliezenâ deze mensen strijden van welke kant of kleur dan ook om hun dagelijks leven, jij, ik en alle andere bezoekers van Thailand(BKK) komen er alleen maar omdat we rustig willen winkelen of op het strand kunnen liggen tijdens onze weet ik hoeveel daagse vakantie.
Natuurlijk wil men vrede maar ze weten als geen ander hoe het er in eigen land aan toe kan gaan.
Ik zit momenteel in Bangkok en wist niets van de dode politieagenten tot ik het internet opende⊠Was speciaal eerst naar Kanchanaburi afgereisd met de hoop dat de demonstraties gedaan zouden wij, niet dus⊠Hopelijk stopt de ellende morgen wanneer de thaise kids terug naar school moeten!
Ik verlies mijn sympathie voor degene die geweld gebruiken.
Ik vind het verschrikkelijk als ik weer een huilende moeder,broer,zus ect⊠bij een dode zie staan.
Ik houd dan ook mijn hart vast als de kleintjes naar school gaan.
Ik spreek niet over mezelf,want ook hier in Nederland voorbeelden ten over dat je ineens slachtoffer worden van geweld.
Ik hoop op een vreedzame oplossing.
En rijst de vraag dan niet, wie veroorzaakt het zinloze geweld, zouden de gele er geen baat bij hebben om de rode in een kwaad daglicht te stellen, want wie zijn er aan het demonstreren dus zullen die het wel doen, ik heb me vraagtekens ???
Elk slachtoffer is er een teveel in deze kwestie.