FF of topic maar…
Lege koffers heen volle koffers terug lol2
Nu geheel off topic ,ik ben inderdaad van plan om in Bangkok een koffer te kopen.
Zijn de merk koffers daar goedkoper :vak01:
Koop gewoon een Samsonite, of een American Toerister komt namelijk van dezelfde fabriek heeft alleen geen achterwand.
Gebruik al jaren een Samsonite hardcase een goede investering die dus jarenlang meegaat, heb 1 keer een koffer gekocht in bkk zo eentje met van die soort ribbeltje’s zat na de vlucht vol met deuken etc.
Deze zijn top:
ik moet binnenkort 1 mnd naar ned zie er nu al tegenoplol2 daar zal wel geen:zon02::vak02: zijn.
Het is Mei vakantie kids thuis, vanaf dag 1 regen je weer te pletter.
Bedankt
Die had ik ook in gedachten,ik vroeg me alleen af of deze in Bangkok en omstreken goedkoper zijn.
Thai Prime Minister to propose reconciliation plan to solve crisis
Monday, May 3, 2010
[http://thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/abhisitntt-80x80.jpg](http://thailand-business-news.com/news/featured/14604-thai-prime-minister-to-propose-reconciliation-plan-to-solve-crisis/) Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejajiva told the Japanese press Sunday he will propose a reconciliation plan to resolve the political turmoil in which the timeframe for House dissolution may be reduced to less than nine months.
Mr Abhisit was interviewed by Japanese media including NHK, Kyodo, Asahi, Yomiuri Shimbun and Jiji Press in Bangkok Sunday. He said he would propose a reconciliation plan in the next few days.The timeframe for House dissolution in his reconciliation plan may be cut to less than nine months.
Nine months is the original timeframe he earlier proposed during talks in March with top Red Shirt leaders in an attempt to find a solution for the political crisis, but it is far from what the Red Shirts are seeking and two rounds of talks between two sides failed to end the conflict.
http://thailand-business-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/abhisitntt-249x205.jpgThe prime minister added that he would give more interviews to the international media, apart from his previous interviews with CNN and BBC, in a bid to make the government’s security and political solutions acceptable among the international community.
The Red Shirts have encamped at Ratchaprasong, a high-end commercial area since April 3, demanding that the prime minister dissolve the House and call a snap election.
“We believe we can do that (easing the political upheaval) by doing two things simultaneously. First, there is a political solution of some kind of a road map to achieve reconciliation….and secondly is that we have to make sure that the law is upheld, ” he said in the interview on Sunday.
via PM to propose reconciliation plan, possible shorter timeframe for House dissolution.
Kan iemand me ff kort en bondig een update geven van waar je in Bangkok echt niet moet komen? Wat zijn nou de echte risicogebieden?
Ik ben tot nu toe niet echt onder de indruk van de zogenaamde dreiging en heb eerlijk hezegd ook het gevoel dat het in de westerse media zwaar overdreven wordt en vertrek dus ook gewoon binnenkort naar Thailand, waavan een aantal dagen in BKK. Aan de andere kant wil ik uiteraard ook de ellende niet opzoeken en zoveel mogelijk wegblijven uit de zones waar een verhoogd risico is.
Dat er doden en gewonden vallen is natuurlijk zeer betreurenswaardig. Ik vind al het gedoe erg triest voor de mensen daar en hoop dat de partijen tot een goed en vreedzaam compromis kunnen komen. Met al deze ellende en al dat geweld schiet niemand wat op! 
De gebieden zijn elders gepost binnen deze en andere threads.
Er is zelfs een kaartje afgebeeld.
Je kunt je uitstekend op de hoogte houden via google.com … bangkok invullen en op NEWS klikken.
Je krijgt dan vnl het laatste nieuws.
Maar goed vooral in en om het BTS Station Sala Daeng, Zakelijk district en sommige shopping malls
Dit is de link naar een kaartje met de plaatsen van de betogingen.
Als je de Nederlandse media soms zou moeten geloven, is heel Bangkok 1 groot slagveld…onzin natuurlijk, zijn slechts bepaalde gebieden waar deze roodhemden zich bevinden (zie eerdere postings in dit topic).
Volgens mij is het aantal roodhemden inmiddels ook al aan het afnemen…regenseizoen begint weer, dus er moet weer op het land gewerkt worden 
Ga mee in de redenering van Dave!!In Belgie zeggen ze “een scheet in een fles”!
Jongens allemaal drukte voor niets,het ene waar je moet opletten is dat ze het vliegveld niet bezetten!
Voor de rest,is het 99% veilig in Bangkok!!
Er zouden normaal verkiezingen zijn in oktober,heb mijn ticket al besteld voor oktober en moesten???er problemen opduiken dan gaan we lekker naar het noorden of Isan country!
Vast, maar heb geen tijd om 16 pagina’s door te lezen of er wellicht ergens staat waar het precies ‘onveilig’ is
Thnx! Als ik dat kaartje zo zie is het dus inderdaad maar een relatief klein gebied… Ik weet niet hoe de situatie daar is, maar neem aan dat je er ook makkelijk ‘omheen’ kunt reizen…
Las tijdje terug ook ergens dat de red-shirts tot 15 mei betogingen, blokkades, etc in stand houden en er daarna de brui aan zouden geven… Iemand die dat toevallig weet?
Er is idd iets in die trant gezegd, ik weet alleen niet precies meer hoe dit nou zat… Volgens mij zouden de leiders v/d roodhemden zichzelf op 15 mei gaan aangeven…tegen die tijd hadden ze wel verwacht dat het kabinet ontbonden zou zijn…
Zou er maar niet op rekenen…ze zeggen wel meer in Thailand…
Precies,
Een roadmap en tevens een mogelijke crackdown, we zijn 8 weken verder,en de premier doet niets
Een stukje uit een tekst die vandaag is verschenen in de bkkpost!
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva confirmed in the parliament that he was working on a reconciliation roadmap to end the deadly standoff with UDD protesters.
“I will present a political solution or roadmap” to end the crisis, Mr Abhisit told the House
“To find a political situation, we have to listen (to everybody), not only to the government, politicians, protesters or a group of people who oppose the protests,” he said.
In an interview with Japanese media, Mr Abhisit said he hoped to announce the roadmap within the next few days.
meanwhile,… zie ik foto’s verschijnen van zwaar bewapende voortuigen die geen redshirt meer toe laten.
Politiek spelletje naar de buitenwereld?
Thai PM offers reconciliation plan, election date
(AP) – 51 minutes ago
BANGKOK — Thailand’s prime minister, facing calls for new elections, has proposed a Nov. 14 date for the polls if anti-government protesters accept his reconciliation plan and peace and stability is restored.
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva made the offer in a live speech Monday night on all television channels.
He said that he would proceed with his reconciliation plan even if the so-called Red Shirt protesters occupying central Bangkok rejected it, but in that case he could not set a date for the election.
The Red Shirts claim that Abhisit came to power illegitimately with the help of the army. They have called for Parliament to be dissolved within 30 days or less. An election must be held within 60 days of Parliament being dissolved.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP’s earlier story is below.
BANGKOK (AP) — Thailand’s prime minister said Monday he has formulated a roadmap to solve the country’s political crisis, while his deputy said the solution will “probably” call for dissolving Parliament if there is no longer a risk of violence.
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, speaking at a special Senate session on the political crisis, did not say when the plan would be made public. Abhisit has been under intense pressure to end the stalemate with the anti-government protesters, who have showed no sign of wearing down after an eight-week siege that has paralyzed parts of the capital.
His comments come just a day after he warned that security forces were preparing to clear out the so-called Red Shirt protesters — an action that would risk more bloodshed. Police with riot gear and armed soldiers remained deployed near the protest site Monday, but there was no immediate sign of increased security or preparations for action.
The protesters have barricaded roads and closed down Bangkok’s ritziest shopping district in a campaign to force the government to disband Parliament and call elections. At least 27 people have been killed and nearly 1,000 wounded in ensuing violence between protesters and security forces.
“I will present political solutions — we can call it a roadmap,” Abhisit told the Senate, saying he was working to incorporate ideas from all sectors of society. “To have a political solution, we must listen to opinions of all parties, not just one group.”
Until now, Abhisit has offered to call elections by the end of this year but has rejected the protesters’ demands for even quicker elections and publicly suspended talks with their leaders.
The protesters, mostly from the rural and urban poor, view the government as an illegitimate puppet of Bangkok’s elite and the military. They say it came to power through behind-the-scenes parliamentary maneuvering after a court decision that disbanded the ruling party aligned with former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a 2006 military coup. Thaksin is now encouraging the protesters from abroad.
Red Shirt leaders, who have vowed to remain camped in Bangkok streets until their demands are met, said Monday a successful solution to the crisis hinged on several factors.
“The word ‘roadmap’ could mean anything,” said Weng Tojirakarn, one of the protest leaders. “Does it mean a constitutional amendment or just solutions to economic problems and political stalemate? The government has to (address) all of this when it launches a roadmap.”
Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban said the government’s plan could offer a political compromise but only if authorities feel there is no more risk of violence.
“The principle is that if the country is quiet, people stop taking sides and are ready to abide by the rules like in other democratic countries, the prime minister will probably decide to dissolve the Parliament,” Suthep told reporters at Parliament.
On Sunday, Abhisit said the government was preparing to clear the activists barricaded in the commercial zone — but also gave no timeframe.
“We are sending a clear signal that we have given people enough time to leave (the occupied zone). We are now in the process of sealing off and cutting off support before we actually move in,” Abhisit said in an interview with foreign journalists.
Speaking at a closely guarded military camp on the city’s outskirts, Abhisit said the demonstrators, who include a large number of women and children, would be given prior warning.
“I can say that we continue to exercise restraint and patience and the first, best solution is one that does not involve violence,” he said.
Monday’s parliamentary session was full of criticism for both the government — for allowing the crisis to drag on this far — and the hostile tactics of the Red Shirts. Several senators called for a political solution, agreeing that enough blood has been spilled, and urged both sides to meet in the middle.
“The government should not rule out parliamentary dissolution and the Red Shirts should be open to negotiations,” said Sen. Sitthana Yingthaweelapa.
Associated Press Writer Denis D. Gray contributed to this report.
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Thai PM proposes Nov poll in ‘reconciliation’ plan
**By Ambika Ahuja**
BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva proposed on Monday to hold an election on Nov. 14 under a "reconciliation" plan aimed at ending a two-month political crisis that has paralysed Bangkok and killed 27 people.
A combination photo shows Thailand’s Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva reacting at a parliamentary session in Bangkok May 3, 2010. (REUTERS/Sukree Sukplang)
Abhisit, backed by Thailand’s royalist establishment, rejected a proposal last month by the mostly rural and urban poor “red shirt” protesters to end their occupation of Bangkok’s main commercial district in return for elections within three months.
He had previously said he would call a poll in December.
“This is quite constructive,” Weng Tojirakarn, a protest leader, told Reuters. “So we will be discussing the prime minister’s proposal seriously.”
The protesters, who broadly back ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, plan to discuss the proposal on Tuesday.
Another protest leader, Jatuporn Prompan, said he was encouraged by the offer but that it contrasted with recent military and government statements warning the red shirts to end their campaign.
Analysts say both sides want to be in power in September for two critical events – a reshuffle of the powerful military and police forces, and the passing of the national budget.
If Thaksin’s camp prevails and is governing at the time of the military reshuffle, analysts expect big changes including the ousting of generals allied with Thailand’s royalist elite, a prospect royalists fear could diminish the power of the monarchy.
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“The game plan is for the government to make it appear this offer is reasonable. If the red shirts reject it, they’ll be seen as the unreasonable party and that will then give the government a chance to go after them,” said Roberto Herrera-Lim, an analyst at risk consultancy Eurasia Group.
“It doesn’t seem like much of a compromise,” he added. “This just shows how crucial the timeframe is and the importance of having that reshuffle of the military and police take place before an election. Judging by the goals of the red shirts, I don’t think they’ll go along with this.”
The British-born, Oxford-educated Abhisit is under intense pressure to end the political stalemate that has choked off tourism, sparked foreign selling in Thai stocks and prompted the International Crisis Group to warn Thailand could slide into an “undeclared civil war”.
FIVE CONDITIONS
In a televised statement, Abhisit set five broad conditions for reconciliation that must be agreed before any election.
The monarchy, he said, should not be dragged into politics or “violated” – a condition that follows government accusations some red shirts aim to overthrow the monarchy.
The second condition calls for reforms to address social injustice. The third calls for an independent body to monitor media to ensure unbiased reporting.
The fourth is the setting up of a fact-finding committee to investigate recent political violence. And the fifth is a possible, unspecified constitutional amendment.
They were written in broad enough language to appeal across the political spectrum, suggesting the potentially contentious issue would likely be the date itself.
“No one is going to disagree with the five conditions. They are just decoration because that’s the language you use in any call for national reconciliation. But the point is that this is the first concrete offer from the government,” said Thanet Charoenmuang, a Chiangmai University political science professor.
“The ball is now in the red shirts’ court to see if they want something they can hold on to, get their victory and go home or keep pushing forward into an uncertain future.”
The red shirts say Abhisit lacks a popular mandate after coming to power in a controversial parliamentary vote 17 months ago and heading a coalition cobbled together with military help.
On Monday, thousands of the protesters remained in their 3 sq km (1.2 sq-mile) fortified encampment in Bangkok’s main shopping area, showing no signs of leaving despite the onset of monsoon rains.
Army spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd told reporters the security forces could use armoured vehicles to disperse the protesters, but did not indicate when such a move might happen.
Thailand’s financial markets, closed for a market holiday on Monday, have underperformed regional peers since April 10, when the protest turned deadly with a gunbattle in the heart of old Bangkok that killed 25 people and wounded more than 800.
Over the past month, the benchmark SET index lost 3.1 percent, compared with a 1.1 percent rise in Asia’s markets outside of Japan, making Thailand Asia’s poorest performer as foreign investors sold $155 million of Thai stocks.
The finance minister said last week the protests could cut growth by 2 percentage points if they continued all year.
(Additional reporting by Vithoon Amorn and Martin Petty; Writing by Jason Szep; Editing by Alex Richardson)
Copyright © 2010 Reuters
UDD accepts PM’s reconciliation roadmap
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[li]Published: 4/05/2010 at 06:57 PM [/li][li]Online news: Local News[/li][/ul]The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has resolved to join Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajica’s roadmap for reconciliation, Veera Musikhapong said after a meeting of UDD leaders on Tuesday evening.
Mr Veera, the UDD chairman, said all red-shirt leaders made the resolution unanimously because the UDD had long proposed for it. Moreover, the UDD did not want to see more deaths and injuries as a result of the political conflict.
However, the UDD, in entering the reconciliation process, wanted the prime minister to set the timeframe for House dissolution because it is within his power to do so and leave it to the Election Commission to fix the election date.
Moreover, the government must immediately show its sincerity by ending all forms of intimidation against the red shirts, he said.
Mr Veera affirmed that the UDD leaders would not seek amnesty from being charged with terrorism and lese majeste and would be ready to fight the charges.
Nathawut Saikua, the UDD secretary-general, said the red-shirt protesters would not yet disperse until the prime minister came up with a clear time frame for the House dissolution.
Earlier in the day, Mr Abhisit said the government would go ahead with the five-point roadmap for national reconciliation with or without the UDD’s participation.
Mr Abhisit said the cabinet had been informed of the plan, so it was not necessary for the parties in the coaltion to confirm their support for his roadmap, as demanded by the UDD, because he, as prime minister, holds sole power to dissolve the House of Representatives.
The prime minister admitted his roadmap was not supported by a Democrat Party resolution, but believed he would be able to explain it to the party when it meets on May 6.
The party’s chief adviser, former prime minister Chuan Leekpai, earlier today reaffirmed his opposition to a House dissolution brought on by intimidation.
Mr Abhisit said the proposal was generated by his own wish to bring about national reconciliation before a general election, and denied his decision was the result of being intimidated.
The reconciliation process would not include an amnesty for anyone facing criminal charges, he said.
The prime minister said there would be no more bargaining. His proposal was made after hearing opinions from all involved groups.
If the UDD protest ended and steps could be taken to solve problems, there would be a House dissolution and a general election according to the planned timeframe.
If the UDD did not respond to the proposal, the process might face difficulties and he could not be certain an election could be held within the set timeframe.
The prime minister said if the UDD accepted his proposal, his secretary-general Korbsak Sabhavasu would be assigned to coordinate political affairs and army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda to oversee an orderly end of the protest.
Mr Korbsak and Gen Anupong could coordinate to ensure the safe movement of people out of the protest site.
The executive decree for administration in emergency situations would, however, continue to be enforced - to enable authorities to maintain security and prevent instigation of unrest through various media.
The entire process might take about two weeks to complete, Mr Abhisit said.
Fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday called on his supporters to seek reconciliation while the prime minister’s offer was welcomed by Puea Thai Party chairman Chavalit Yongchaiyudh.
“Reconciliation is good for everybody,” Mr Thaksin said in a phone-in to a meeting of the opposition Puea Thai Party. "Today, don’t think about the past but look to the future. That is how national reconciliation will happen.
“I think there should be a start to talks, to create a good climate,” he said.
But he said he would leave it up to the red-shirt leaders to decide.
“This is far beyond me because I’m just a little person among the red-shirts,” he said. “The red-shirt UDD will make a decision on the prime minister’s five-point plan since I’m just an observer.”
Puea Thai Party chairman Chavalit Yongchayudh was full of praise for Mr Abhisit for having proposed the roadmap for reconciliation and an election date.
Gen Chavalit said a House dissolution, a general election and having the monarchy as the country’s main institution are what everybody wants.
"I think what happened is good and makes us feel relieved.
“May 5, Coronation Day, is an auspicious day for all. I believe the red shirts will gradually go home and all sides will turn to seeing one another and join hands as one. We have taken a long step back,” he said.
Leader of multi-coloured group Tul Sithisomwong said his group supports Mr Abhisit’s proposed roadmap for reconciliation, but with some reservations.
Dr Tul, of Chulalongkorn University’s faculty of medicine, said he would like to first look into details of the roadmap to see what changes were planned to the current constitution.
He personally thought the House dissolution would come too soon to solve various related problems if a general election was scheduled for Nov 14.
The government should fix a clear timeframe on what it would do before the election.
*Bron: Bangkok Post / www.bangkokpost.com *